Episode 338: Building Relational Literacy with Dr. Melanie Joy

Episode Notes

In 2021, our daughter, Olivia, turned me on to Guest Mentor Dr. Melanie Joy. I have devoured her books, podcast conversations, and TEDTALKs. I use her relational literacy tips by noticing the flexibility that love and acceptance bring. I align boundaries around my values of fairness and kindness, for example. Or, notice how I feel when my rights are overstepped, angry, and feel empowered to do something constructive about it. As a result, I feel more connected with those in my life, and you can too.  Enjoy this transformative podcast conversation I am re-airing to promote relational literacy to get us out of the dark ages.

Melanie is an amazingly gifted, brilliant social psychologist, theorist, educator, and international award-winning author of six books. She is a pioneer with a global mission to raise awareness of the obstacles preventing people from interacting in ways that create a sense of mutual connection. These obstacles are internal (psychological) and external (social), which are key reasons why we act against our interests and others—often without realizing that we’re doing so. With awareness, we can think freely and act compassionately to create healthier and more fulfilling relationships and a more equitable and sustainable world.

Melanie says, “Most of the problems in our lives and world are caused by relational dysfunction, a dysfunction in how we relate: as social groups, as individuals, to animals and the environment, and even to ourselves. Therefore, developing relational literacy—the understanding of and ability to practice healthy ways of relating—is essential for personal, social, and ecological transformation.” She has been influential in raising my awareness and has helped me transform my behaviors in three areas we talk about: how we relate to ourselves, each other, and the world at large.

Today we discuss one of her six books. A one-stop guide to building relational literacy, Getting Relationships Right: How to Build Resilience and Thrive in Life, Love, and Work. We haven’t been taught relational literacy. As a result, we are in the dark ages. You will understand more as you listen. Our conversation will facilitate your ability to move the pendulum toward healthier relating; even a little movement makes a difference.

Some of the gems in our conversation include:
  • How we have bought into the narratives that drive unconscious choices.
  • The mentality and thinking behind nonrelational behaviors.
  • Two sides to a coin, the nonrelational and relational.
  • The Formula for Healthy Relating.
  • Tips for Healthy Expressing.
  • Solving life’s more pressing problems start with learning relational literacy. Hear how that is possible and how it relates to the issues you are solving through your business entity.

Melanie joins me in conversation from Berlin, Germany, where she lives with her husband and colleague, Sebastian Joy. They are interdependent, powerful together, and apart. Successful and connected in their life work. You will learn how they practice healthy relating personally and as world leaders.

Sebastian is transforming food systems by working with world leaders replacing conventional animal products with plant-based and cultured alternatives. Melanie is building relational literacy facilitating transformation in how we participate in the invisible belief system, or ideology, that conditions us to eat certain animals, known as carnism. A term coined by Melanie in 2001. 

This a transformative conversation because it is thought-provoking. You won’t want to miss it. DOWNLOAD
 
 

 

NEXT STEP: Challenge yourself and do the Conscious Attentive Leadership Mentoring (C.A.L.M.) Activities below. 

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Episode Resources

Conscious Attentive Leadership Mentoring

After listening, do these three C.A.L.M. Activities:

Take this risk or do this adventurous task: Bring awareness to relating and interacting with others this week. Turn your focus inward and ask yourself, do I feel emotionally connected and secure with the person I am talking with?

While interacting, notice any physical changes like your breathing, pulse increase, eyes hardening or softening, or tone of voice change. Is someone morally superior? Or, are you noticing a calm and relaxed manner and demeanor where you feel there is nothing to protect, no armor needed to defend yourself, or a need for them to armor up with you?

You can use an ‘I’ statement and any other tip for healthy expression Melanie mentioned. Effective communication is nonviolent and non-harming, with each party leaving the conversation feeling understood and heard, even if you have different beliefs. There is no hierarchy of needs, just an equal desire to have a secure connection. The main question is, what is the relationship underneath the beliefs? In connected and secure relating, you can agree to disagree and build upon healthy relating by practicing integrity and honoring each other’s dignity. 

Apply Self-Compassion: After each interaction, appreciate the risk and focus it took to maintain a healthy conversation and acknowledge feelings. Identify how you felt during and after the exchange. Let go of residual emotions and decide how you want to ‘do better or ‘change up the next interaction. Mistakes are part of a healthy related practice. 

Welcome Appreciation: “I appreciate Melanie. I appreciate what it takes for Melanie to create a global movement. I appreciate the role modeling of healthy relating Melanie and Sebastian do as world leaders. I appreciate our daughter, Olivia, and her commitment—and as an extension, our commitment—to veganism. A change we made this year. I appreciate journeying toward healthy relating all the time and participating in this global movement to move out of the dark ages.” 

Your Turn. Start with, “I appreciate Dr. Melanie Joy and this week’s adventurous task because… I appreciate my ability to show up and be present. I appreciate practicing healthy relating, etc.”

 “Most of the problems in our lives and world are caused by relational dysfunction, a dysfunction in how we relate: as social groups, as individuals, to animals and the environment, and even to ourselves. Therefore, developing relational literacy—the understanding of and ability to practice healthy ways of relating—is essential for personal, social, and ecological transformation.” —Melanie Joy, psychologist, author, theorist, educator

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Podcast Guest Mentor

Melanie Joy, Ph.D., Ed.M.

Dr. Joy is a Harvard-educated psychologist specializing in relationships, communication, and social change. She is an award-winning author of six books, including Getting Relationships Right: How to Build Resilience and Thrive in Life, Love, and Work, and Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows. Dr. Joy is also an international speaker, trainer, and organizational coach. Her work has been featured by media outlets worldwide, including The New York Times, BBC, and ABC Australia, and she has been granted many international awards. FB  IG  

Check out her new podcast: Just Beings. 
And, 4 of 6 Books by Dr. Melanie Joy

 

Episode 338: Building Relational Literacy with Dr. Melanie Joy

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